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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.05 05:56:00 -
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I'm very sorry to hear about the current state of affairs in PAYUS. I finally decided to join my current corporation when I heard that they had been invited to join Pirate Coalition. 100 million ISK, a few weeks and a lot of bad noise later, we left for the reasons Lanfear listed.
With luck (and good governance), PAYUS can recover and rebuild. I truly hope there will once again be a day when ships bearing the Skull and Crossbones of Pirate Coalition will once again bring terror and financial setbacks to the galaxy.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.05 11:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Dana Barrett
The only criticism I have is that PC's selling point originally was a sort of "do what you want, wherever you want" attitude. You can't take corps who joined for this reason and wardec CVA without notice or consultation, and then not even require it to be mandatory, and expect them to show up.
QFT. If PC's leadership already knew that organizing pirates was like herding cats, then they should have known what would happen when they told the member corps, "You will come together and fight this war because we said so" and then, when nobody shows up, the new attitude of, "Alright, nobody's participating in alliance ops. You will move to one place so we can keep an eye on you." And they certainly should have known better than to issue such drastic orders without soliciting any feedback from the membership.
And they absolutely shouldn't have tried to paint the corps that left as, "people who just wanted a free NAP." If the leadership wanted to kick out corporations who weren't upholding the traditions of the Pirate Coalition (be pirates, work together on occasion, don't attack each other), then they should have done so. Every corporation that joined Pirate Coalition was able to engage in piracy all on their own long before they joined the alliance (or else they would have never been invited in the first place). The leadership seemed to forget that.
We are pirates, not soldiers. We don't have to follow orders that don't make sense.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.05 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Edited by: tiller on 05/01/2007 12:06:19
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
And they absolutely shouldn't have tried to paint the corps that left as, "people who just wanted a free NAP."
Thats why I said 'in my opinion'
Unfortunately, it was an opinion shared by every leader I saw who bothered to respond complaints about the direction PC was moving in.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice
Well, I'm really not interested in rewriting history. I think PC has picked up the pieces and are moving on towards a better future.
If its in your opinion to keep saying that PC was "killed" or whatever, thats fine; as long as you feel better 
I really hope you're right, and you probably are. Pirate Coalition should endure, despite this self-inflicted wound.
But other than the whole "Pirate Coalition is dead" thing, I agree with everything Lanfear's Bane has to say.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.08 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
"it's not dead...it's just sleeping!"
This pirate is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft of life, He rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed him to the pod, he'd be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!
THIS IS AN EX-PIRATE!!
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